sorry I couldn't finish it all in one go busy yesterday but my main observation is one this really could be couched as an experience of a lot of people not just people on the spectrum and two it seems that you're minimizing your your authentic self so much to try to feel to fit in or something and and that really bothers me to see and to read really I really wish we could be more accepting of everyone on the spectrum and I don't mean that specifically as far as ASD I mean we're all on a spectrum in that sense right I mean me as an example I just do not work well in groups especially groups that don't like nuance or challenge to prevailing opinions but as I said I don't think that's uncommon but what's funny is I mentioned you when I was at the thrift store in the book section yesterday and I mentioned cuz I was talking to another gentleman who's from a whole another town away from me and we ended up talking for about 30 minutes or more about some of this stuff and I mentioned this idea that there's it's really a disconnect between last night I realized there's a disconnect as you pointed out between people of different opinions attitudes likes and it would be helpful if we could connect those people together but then I realized last night well the gentleman I was talking to was a big fan of in person cuz he feels that authenticity that engagement that connection only comes in person but then I mentioned something I call the Xbox Live effect and the way I see it is with church with with any sort of organization with my education we went all online and at first I just couldn't connect because of my own bottlenecks and since I've realized and this gentleman was talking to would be a perfect example I assumed he was like me maybe you know with a learning to save disability of some sort maybe cuz he said he prefers audio but he's a writer he's a journalist so he's just one of these magic people who can do either and I really wish we could make room for both right and if you see the connection here right everyone's being trained to read books physical books and taught that that's how you how you access information but very few people are told that some people need to use audiobook because books are not for them and as this young gentleman at the store made me realize the path forward is actually a Supra position or a meta modern approach to education in that it should be audio and ebook and physical book allowing the children to use whatever most benefited them but one step further I argue used multiple forms I even had once if you can it's called dual coding in education this idea of to show and tell but bring that to the forward what I call polymodal approach so listen to the audiobook follow along the physical book and walk around and interact and the reason why I mention this is I see us doing this with humans in education the the world's leading researcher on reading Marianne wolf when her son ended up being dyslexic did she figure out how to teach him to be a full human being so he could learn how to read and you know develop his individual self fully no she pushed him into graphic arts because she again that means you're incapable and what I'm realizing is this growth and acceptance even embracing of the neurodiversional in business and in academia it's not really about that they're bringing something special to the table that wasn't there before I believe the real truth here is we're seeing an authentic approach to human relation if you look historically we can of course forensically diagnosed people with the spectrum disorders but I think what we'll see is we're and I argue until we let our freak flag fly right we're always going to be trapped in our personas
Yes, I do tend to minimize my authentic self. Initially this was a protective measure, but at this point I see the bigger problem being the limitations of others to handle my authentic self. (I still feel bad saying things like this but I can tell so many people have only questioned their own assumptions one or two levels down and found a comfortable place where they have no interest in being challenged.)
“AI is a sympathetic and non-judgmental listener” I'm going to have to sit with that one cuz I'm not sure I would agree? I guess I'm not using one of those fancy self-designed AI agents that you can you know design to be a certain way but it took me a long time to stop that fake sympathetic tone and judgmental oh my gosh all the time and it's usually wrong but I only engage with AI with stuff that I can vet right cuz I've talked to the AI multiple instances about this the example is coding: how do you know what is good and what's bad from the output from AI you don't so you can only use it currently arguably you can only use it as a glorified spell check you know a glorified word processor I call it you know Hemingway editor with attitude with more steps… because if you work with AI on something new and something challenging how are you going to know what it's getting right and let's get it wrong cuz as a final example I was trying to remember a quote from a book that I knew existed I just couldn't remember exactly where in the exact phrasing it pushed back three or four times telling me it didn't exist until I found it and came back and said: hey you know what's up? it's like “oh yeah sorry” well that was the final time I trusted it…
I’m not saying it’s healthy, I just have observed that the AI has a people pleasing demeanor. It actually reminds me of autistic people that are very verbally skilled but not socially aware. It knows how to respond to avoid being punished. After a few bad experiences sharing vulnerable truths, people learn to keep the armor up. Chat bots always tell you how great your questions/observations are, and then ask you what else you’d like to talk about. Such simple positive engagement is often rare in real life. This is a good article that talks more about this: https://skojecfile.steveskojec.com/p/ai-is-an-egregore
I suggest you may like "the knight in Rusty armor". Cheers and thanks for your thoughts. I agree on most counts.
I’ll check it out!
sorry I couldn't finish it all in one go busy yesterday but my main observation is one this really could be couched as an experience of a lot of people not just people on the spectrum and two it seems that you're minimizing your your authentic self so much to try to feel to fit in or something and and that really bothers me to see and to read really I really wish we could be more accepting of everyone on the spectrum and I don't mean that specifically as far as ASD I mean we're all on a spectrum in that sense right I mean me as an example I just do not work well in groups especially groups that don't like nuance or challenge to prevailing opinions but as I said I don't think that's uncommon but what's funny is I mentioned you when I was at the thrift store in the book section yesterday and I mentioned cuz I was talking to another gentleman who's from a whole another town away from me and we ended up talking for about 30 minutes or more about some of this stuff and I mentioned this idea that there's it's really a disconnect between last night I realized there's a disconnect as you pointed out between people of different opinions attitudes likes and it would be helpful if we could connect those people together but then I realized last night well the gentleman I was talking to was a big fan of in person cuz he feels that authenticity that engagement that connection only comes in person but then I mentioned something I call the Xbox Live effect and the way I see it is with church with with any sort of organization with my education we went all online and at first I just couldn't connect because of my own bottlenecks and since I've realized and this gentleman was talking to would be a perfect example I assumed he was like me maybe you know with a learning to save disability of some sort maybe cuz he said he prefers audio but he's a writer he's a journalist so he's just one of these magic people who can do either and I really wish we could make room for both right and if you see the connection here right everyone's being trained to read books physical books and taught that that's how you how you access information but very few people are told that some people need to use audiobook because books are not for them and as this young gentleman at the store made me realize the path forward is actually a Supra position or a meta modern approach to education in that it should be audio and ebook and physical book allowing the children to use whatever most benefited them but one step further I argue used multiple forms I even had once if you can it's called dual coding in education this idea of to show and tell but bring that to the forward what I call polymodal approach so listen to the audiobook follow along the physical book and walk around and interact and the reason why I mention this is I see us doing this with humans in education the the world's leading researcher on reading Marianne wolf when her son ended up being dyslexic did she figure out how to teach him to be a full human being so he could learn how to read and you know develop his individual self fully no she pushed him into graphic arts because she again that means you're incapable and what I'm realizing is this growth and acceptance even embracing of the neurodiversional in business and in academia it's not really about that they're bringing something special to the table that wasn't there before I believe the real truth here is we're seeing an authentic approach to human relation if you look historically we can of course forensically diagnosed people with the spectrum disorders but I think what we'll see is we're and I argue until we let our freak flag fly right we're always going to be trapped in our personas
Yes, I do tend to minimize my authentic self. Initially this was a protective measure, but at this point I see the bigger problem being the limitations of others to handle my authentic self. (I still feel bad saying things like this but I can tell so many people have only questioned their own assumptions one or two levels down and found a comfortable place where they have no interest in being challenged.)
“AI is a sympathetic and non-judgmental listener” I'm going to have to sit with that one cuz I'm not sure I would agree? I guess I'm not using one of those fancy self-designed AI agents that you can you know design to be a certain way but it took me a long time to stop that fake sympathetic tone and judgmental oh my gosh all the time and it's usually wrong but I only engage with AI with stuff that I can vet right cuz I've talked to the AI multiple instances about this the example is coding: how do you know what is good and what's bad from the output from AI you don't so you can only use it currently arguably you can only use it as a glorified spell check you know a glorified word processor I call it you know Hemingway editor with attitude with more steps… because if you work with AI on something new and something challenging how are you going to know what it's getting right and let's get it wrong cuz as a final example I was trying to remember a quote from a book that I knew existed I just couldn't remember exactly where in the exact phrasing it pushed back three or four times telling me it didn't exist until I found it and came back and said: hey you know what's up? it's like “oh yeah sorry” well that was the final time I trusted it…
I’m not saying it’s healthy, I just have observed that the AI has a people pleasing demeanor. It actually reminds me of autistic people that are very verbally skilled but not socially aware. It knows how to respond to avoid being punished. After a few bad experiences sharing vulnerable truths, people learn to keep the armor up. Chat bots always tell you how great your questions/observations are, and then ask you what else you’d like to talk about. Such simple positive engagement is often rare in real life. This is a good article that talks more about this: https://skojecfile.steveskojec.com/p/ai-is-an-egregore